Hours ago, Gohan finished Cell off for good but the victory of Cell's demise came with a price for Gohan's father, Goku died fighting Cell by giving up his life. Freeza's Cells. Chiaotzu body didn't exist on earth, since he blew up. This causes Goku, Cell, King Kai, Bubbles, and Gregory to die from the blast. Goku is the king of redemption and second chances. He never even got a chance to wish back king Kari let alone Raditz, and by the time super comes along there is no point in bringing him back. I doubt Goku really values blood relationships over actual relationships, Goku spared Raditz multiple times during the fight, I'm pretty sure if Goku had the chance to beat Raditz without killing him he would've done it. The set of Dragon Balls that Dende had created were constricted by the same general limitations of the original set, as Dende essentially just upgraded Shenlon rather than create a new dragon. Now that I think about it, wouldn't the bad guys just fuck with Goku's friends out of spite if they couldn't find Goku? And in the ending of Dragon Ball GT, Goku meets Goku junior and disappears. Android 16 is the only member of the Cell Saga's android trio who has yet to return. Nobody is gonna go out of their way to bring someone back to life who causes you to die in the first place. After a grueling battle, Gohan finally killed the villain. Why did Goku never revive........... GOKU? After defeating Cell, they revived all his victims using Shenron. Because he has the greatest potential afterall. As such, Dende's set cannot revive anyone that the old set already had, as Shenlon cannot revive someone that's already been revived once before. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Dragon Ball Z famously killed off Android 16, and never brought him back, but could it be that he's still alive, thanks to the Dragon Balls. It makes no sense why Goku didn't get teleported to earth when he got revived, but the humans did. Everyone else hates him for pretty much the same reasons. Not only is he one of the last saiyans, he's also gokus brother. But come home to his family and lead a normal life. Which he clearly was given his presence on Earth in the Buu arc. It just wasn't an option given the circumstances. (Vegeta did not comeback this time because he had already been revived by shenron in the Frieza Saga.) Re-construct Earth 2.) With training for the Saiyans, fighting them and barely surviving, then recovering, going to Namek, the Cyborgs and training for them, Cell, then dying again and Buu. Episode 248/233 Goku's Time is Up, he goes back to the other world(but they still show him) On episode 266/251 The Old Kai's Weapon, Elder Kai, gives his life to Goku, to go back to earth and fight Buu. So, no Super Cell God or Super Cell Blue. In some cases, however, the act of bringing someone back to life will result in the person who did the act dying. He wanted to stay in the afterlife and fight strong guys. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. Cell didn't fight fair with the self destruct ability butcame back in the form of the Cell Jrs anyway. And so, I have a hunch that the earth will be more peaceful without me around. Every Dragon Ball fan knows that Akira Toriyama actually considered making Gohan the main character of Dragon Ball Z.. After the Cell Saga, the opening was there; Goku had been killed, leaving Gohan to defend the planet in his place. He was just trying to draw out all of his techniques so everyone watching could understand the opponent that was otherwise so mysterious. If he got revived, they should have him train in the room of spirit and time for the remaining 8 hours, (which equals MONTHS) and have him reach SSJ Blue level! Then after breaking every bone in his body and nearly dying he had to jump on a spaceship and travel across the universe to save his son and 2 best friends from a space tyrant so he could wish back 4 more friends. 5 Sacrificed His Life To Stop Cell (this was not the case) and that's how 17 returned and indeed he wasn't seen again untill GT. 625,000 miles long and it takes Goku 177 days (including falling off and restarting) to reach the end. There is a plothole though, assuming 17 was also killed in that self-explosion, he did get revived. Why didn't Goku just communicate this s*** to Bulma or Trunks? Answer - because in canon Future Goku didn't give a damn. The Red Ribbon came back in the form of 17 and 18. After Shenron revived Goku, he must have given his memory back and I think Shenron made him immortal and given him a god soul because of his good deeds. A/N: This story is a what if situation had Goku not decided to remain dead after his defeat with Cell. They could have easily wished Goku back. Still, if I understand everything correctly, why wasn't Goku brought back to life like the people of Namek, Chauzu, Tien and Yamcha were(he had to make his way back from snakeway unlike them)? Sure, Goku wouldn't have learned Super Saiyan 3 or fusion but there's also a good chance Buu never would have revived. Other exempt cases would be the people in South City Androids 19 and 20 killed, in addition to the innocent bystanders Vegeta recklessly killed during his fight with 18, they never got wished back. She said it was like I drew bad guys towards me. In-universe, Goku dies on November 28 and is revived on November 3 of the next year in order to fight Nappa and Vegeta. Naturally considering how arrogant Cell is he'll believe that if Goku, Vegeta and Freeza can acheive that level of power than so can he. Some might consider that 17 survived as part of Cell. In a fit of rage, Goku flies off to foolishly avenge his friend, nearly losing his life in the process. In canon, Future Goku was dead. It is the act of bringing someone back to life. In giving Cell a Senzu bean, Goku saved Gohan’s life. Overview. Well I think its base on the fact that yes Goku will avoid killing people if he can but I don't think there is an instance where he goes out of his way to revive an evil person who died, except for one instance in super where he and universe had something to gain from it. All of Goku's training, his time and preparation, the goal to push himself to his limits that had well… literally killed him … Dabura isn't much of a fighter, he's always trying to turn people to stone with his spit. When Goku was fighting Cell, he wasn't trying to win the fight. Also potentially if the wording used was "all people killed by cell" then king Kai wouldn't have come back because he is a Kai. Maybe I missed out some details, but I've been wondering why Goku can't be revived after he died from Cell Saga? ... neither of which would have been an option if Goku went back to the afterlife. MPrice Alt account. Following Cell's demise, the Dragon Balls were used to wish back everyone that Cell had killed, including Future Trunks, Android 17, and more. Perfect Cell was a much cooler and better villain overall. When Piccolo and the others realized that Dende's set couldn't revive Goku, once the wish was made to revive all those killed by Cell, they were about to start discussing what other options they had to revive him, when Goku interjected from the afterlife and established that he didn't want to be wished back. 2. Without the Senzu, Cell likely would have just killed Gohan right away in order to get back to fighting Goku. The only reason for him not to be is if they retcon it that king Kai has already died once in the past. Kinda like Vegeta and Freeza, Goku doesn’t give everyone a second chase, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! He wasn't even trying to tire out Cell to make the fight easier for Gohan. Goku did revive Freeza. Why ain't you ever revive Raditz if you like him so much? Goku couldn't use his Ultra Instinct form in Dragon Ball Super: Broly, highlighting a wider issue with the franchise's power scaling. Why? well after discovering there was one wish left because of goku not wanting to return Krillin wished back 17 for 18 because he thought 17 was her boyfriend. They do have potential to become good guys since Vegeta was even more ruthless than the both of them. Goku: I'm speaking to you from the Next World. Raditz was weak and a bad fighter and an asshole. Dabura isn't much of a fighter, he's always trying to turn people to stone with his spit. So, it got me thinking. This resulted in Kibito being brought back to life along with the victims of the World Martial Arts Tournament. Not like prance around fighting in tournaments dead, but like dead dead. Goku did revive Freeza. Now Gohan wanted to revive his father. Raditz showed up and he died. When you think about it, she's certainly right, ain't she? Because I broke my dragon radar and can't find the balls now. It's after this that Goku asked to not be brought back. Really? they could have easily brought him back to life with the namekian dragon balls, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! he did try and kidnap his son and to kill Raditz he had to die. From major villains like Golden Frieza and Fused Zamasu to more minor villains like Copy Vegeta, Super gave us some amazing antagonists. This being Dragon Ball, though, Goku’s death ends up leaving the main cast completely unprepared for when the Artificial Humans start wreaking havoc shortly after. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Why? Cell didn't fight fair with the self destruct ability butcame back in the form of the Cell Jrs anyway. Could have been a good uncle to Gohan, instead of having him be raised by that filthy perfectly decent Namekian. This wasn’t the first time Dragon Ball dabbled with death in a serious manner– that distinction belongs to Bora in the Red Ribbon Army arc– but this is the first time Toriyama kills off a … The question is, would it have been possible to revive him somehow (at that point of the story) if he were not against it? It’s debatable just how much Goku would be able to help, but he at least knew about the Room of Spirit and Time & could teleport at this point. I'm pretty sure she means when Shenron revived Cell's victims. It’s not like Raditz would suddenly help or be useful against Vegeta and Nappa or Freeza, etc. Raditz pretty much left a bad impression on everyone. He's the "perfect" choice. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. When cell got the senzu bean from Goku did cell get a zenkai or was that when he came back "perfect cell" absorbing Goku saiyan genes ... so he wasn't sure who he was aiming at of the two. Nov 3, 2019 #68 Originally you were only allowed to be revived once and he had been revived before. He can't. The man called Goku has returned to Earth," Porunga's voice boomed over the small group of humans and Namekians who gathered to see the dragon. Atleast not Cooler and Broly! Prior to Cell's defeat, Android 18 was released from his body, and Android 17 - who was resurrected with the Dragon Balls - became a main character in Dragon Ball Super. The set of Dragon Balls that Dende had created were constricted by the same general limitations of the original set, as Dende essentially just upgraded Shenlon rather than create a new dragon. And besides that he knew the guy for like a day and had no relationship or anything with him. Well apart from just disliking him as a person since he was a cowardly evil dick, there wasn’t any need or reason to. Kaio-sama admits to that, too. ... (but Goku) revived and Vegeta giving up fighting. Dragon Ball Super: Broly follows on from the Dragon Ball Super anime series, the final arc of which saw Goku unearth a devastating new transformation - by far his most powerful form yet. Why Trunks got hit, its fairly obvious, because the plot needed it. Because by the time they had the chance to freely use the dragon balls Raditz would have reincarnated, Because raditz was a villain and the “real” goku isn’t this mercy giving guy and rather just wants a selfish good fight, Because he was a bad guy and goku didn't like him. Raditz could've come around. Perfect Cell was a much cooler and better villain overall. Dragon Ball Super: Broly follows on from the Dragon Ball Super anime series, the final arc of which saw Goku unearth a devastating new transformation - by far his most powerful form yet. Then, Goku contacted them using King Kai's telepathy and asked them not to revive him. Why? 1 17 did get wished back by krillin. And due to this, in the farewell tour, Goku was able to go to hell to meet Piccolo. Snake Way. During the Majin Buu saga (which proceeds the Cell saga), the Elder Kai gives Goku his life so that he may help in the efforts against Majin Buu. Angered by what Cell had done, Gohan became more powerful than ever. He wanted to stay in the afterlife and fight strong guys. But then, that would mean Gohan killed him along with Cell, therefore he wouldn't have been revived by the wish to bring back all Cell's victims. 2. Why? Freeza's Cells. But Shenron could not revive Goku, as he already revived once. Therefore, Goku without hesitation holds Cell and uses instant transmission to teleport to King Kai's World. He then dies for 7 years and when he finally comes back and saves the world the show ended. Why he's the perfect choice: 1. He probably just forgot about him to be honest. Asked by Dende to Porunga on planet New Namek: 1.) Vegeta hates him for the same reason that he hates Nappa: he's a low level brute and not exactly a proud warrior, though at the time the reason was that he was weak. He's given all of his enemies multiple chances to turn their lives around. But only mention that because I don't remember the wording. He wanted to stay in the afterlife and fight strong guys. Then Goku tells Shenron that they dont need a second wish. (this was not the case) and that's how 17 returned and indeed he wasn't seen again untill GT. 1 17 did get wished back by krillin. Same with Krillin. I mean, so was Vegeta, at first. They had the Namekian Dragon Balls at their disposal, after all. Healing Old Wounds. When the entire population of earth were kill and send to otherworld, they didn't stay in otherworld when revived they got teleported to earth. He and Goku did not want to be revived Meshack 02:32, June 12, 2015 (UTC) can't king kai come back to life and stay in the other world ( Spice boys ( talk ) 09:13, June 12, 2015 (UTC) After Goku declined to be revived by the Dragon Balls, King Kai declined as well so he could help guide Goku around in Other World. Next he has to spent a year traveling back to earth and when he arrives finds out he has to train for 3 years or androids will kill everyone. What if Goku was revived after dying from Cell and Trunks asked him to come to the future with him. Here is why- Broly: The great Ancient Super Saiyan believed to be the strongest Saiyans has no existence in the Dragon Ball timeline. I think It’s worth a shorter what-if. Couldn't Dende, the new guardian of the earth create a namekian dragon ball (Porunga) to revive him? Why not raditz? Why he's the perfect choice: 1. The funny thing is that Goku got resurrected, obviously, while King Kai still has a Halo because no one resurrected him. Cell didn't fight fair with the self destruct ability butcame back in the form of the Cell Jrs anyway. If he got revived, they should have him train in the room of spirit and time for the remaining 8 hours, (which equals MONTHS) and have him reach SSJ Blue level! Banned. A Reflection Of Sorts. Since the Earth dragon balls could only revive someone who died once and this was Goku's second death. Not much more too it. And why weren't Tien and Yamcha revived into their original bodies since they didn't disintegrate like Chauzu's did when they fought the Saiyans? Of course the show is interesting even without Goku. As such, Dende's set cannot revive anyone that the old set already had, as Shenlon cannot revive someone that's already been revived once before. He's the "perfect" choice. The most obvious omission from this wish was Android 16, who seemingly remained dead. Especially since he was such a dick, He still hasn’t managed to revive King Kai so I don’t think Raditz will ever happen lol. Reviving the guy that he brought with him to the grave might not be in his interest. well after discovering there was one wish left because of goku not wanting to return Krillin wished back 17 for 18 because he thought 17 was her boyfriend. Dragon Ball Super gave us some really strong villains that pushed Goku and Vegeta farther than they've been pushed before. If Vegeta killed Cell in his semi-perfect, Goku never would have died, Gohan would have kept training throughout the seven-year gap between the Cell and Buu sagas, and Trunks never would have had to die. Goku later sacrifices his life at the end of the Cell Games, opting to stay dead for seven years before having his life restored by the Rou Kaioshin during the events of the Majin Buu arc. Then he trained for a year in the after life and the moment he was wished back he had to fight Raditz’s “allies”. When Piccolo and the others realized that Dende's … Both raditz and nappa or no longer threats to someone as weak as Tien?? Dabura isn't much of a fighter, he's always trying to turn people to stone with his spit. Piccolo correctly calls Goku out for throwing Cell a Senzu bean without so much as discussing a game plan with Gohan, but Goku was right to do so. Yes. To be fair, King Piccolo was reincarnated as Piccolo Junior and Frieza ultimately got revived in the end thanks in part to Goku. That and generally speaking he had his hands full. There was something that Bulma mentioned a long time ago. Goku hates him because he kidnapped his son when he was like four years old. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Part One "Your wish has been granted. Goku couldn't use his Ultra Instinct form in Dragon Ball Super: Broly, highlighting a wider issue with the franchise's power scaling. But Chiaotzu was wished back twice. Cell will furiously train against the Cell Jr's, eventually after four months of hard work he emerges with a power only slightly greater than Golden Freeza himself. Listen to me, would you? He never got a second to just sit back and chill once Raditz showed up. If he has a soul and is considered a victim, I'd say, yeah, he was brought back. A slaughter would occur as Majin Boo murdered everyone including Perfect Cell on his first try unlike when Perfect Cell detonated and they thought he died. goku chose to stay dead because he thought he was attracting a lot of bad guys to earth and that its his fault (thats a really dumb reason, and it didn't even work because majin buu was happening.) discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. While he may seem mediocre at first glance, this Cell hides a deadly secret; an incredibly powerful transformation that is guaranteed to trigger when he falls to 0% health in his Perfect Form, essentially giving the ultimate android 2 Health Bars. A brand new Cell has arrived in Dragon Ball Legends, and this one is closer to perfection than ever. Because he has the greatest potential afterall. Oct 18, 2019 654. A lot of interesting events happen during that one day pass lol. 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